Those Damn Double Doors

At about 6:00 this morning, I was walking into the gym to do some morning cardio—my typical Monday morning routine. When I was a few feet from the front door a man’s voice yelled from behind me, “I’ll get the door!” I turned around to see a young man, maybe early 20’s, jogging across the parking lot toward me. I stopped and waited, pleasantly surprised, and thanked him when he opened the door for me. In a Southern accent, he said “you’re welcome.” Then I walked through the doors and dammit if I wasn’t stumped once again by the double door. I never know what to do! In this instance, he had put so much effort into getting the first door for me that I stopped and waited, allowing him to get the second door too. If I had gotten the second door for myself, I ran the risk of being unappreciative of his chivalry. But if I don’t, I might look lazy or seem to have a sense of entitlement. I have always just relied on a genuine ‘thank you’ with eye contact and a smile to redeem myself for any mistakes I might be making.

But it gets even more complicated than that. Does the polite thing to do change depending on if it’s a stranger or your date? What if it’s a first date versus a date with your long-time significant other? What if the gentleman holding the door is older, from a previous generation where chivalry was the norm? Do you respond differently then?

I realize that there are a lot more rules for men to know than women… assuming the man wants to be chivalrous. He needs to worry about the rules surrounding opening car doors, which side of her he should be on when walking down the sidewalk, whether to be in front of her or behind her on the stairs, whether to let her go first through a revolving door or to go ahead of her and do the work for her. He needs to walk the delicate balance between offering to pick her up for a date versus respecting the fact that she may not want to divulge her address. He needs to know when to put his jacket around her shoulders and when to refrain because she isn’t cold enough yet to cover up her cute outfit. He has to worry about offending her by treating her as if she’s incapable. (If only we all wore signs, announcing where we fall on the feminist rating scale.) Lastly, but certainly not least, is the issue of picking up the check. This one stumps women, too, btw.

I’ll shed some light, from one woman’s perspective, on what is appreciated. It can be summed up quite simply:

I like it all! There’s no such thing as too chivalrous in my book, as long as you’re not making a show of it. I love having doors held for me. I love it when a guy offers to pick me up for a date, opens the car door (all the time, not just on a date), pulls out my chair at dinner, puts his jacket around me when I’m cold. I like it when he walks me to my door after a date, or at least checks to see that I made it home safely. I love it when I feel a hand on my lower back to guide me, even though I’m perfectly capable of finding my own way through a door. I like it when a man pulls me to the other side of him to make sure he’s closer to the street when we’re walking down a sidewalk. None of it goes unnoticed, and none of it goes unappreciated. It reminds me that I am a woman, and more importantly, that he is a man.

So now that you have the female perspective, I’d love to hear the man’s perspective. At what point do you feel that a woman is being presumptuous? If you hold the first door of a set of two, what do you expect her to do for the second door? When the check comes, do you want her to offer to pay or not? Does it make a difference whether it’s a first date, or who asked who to dinner? If you pay for dinner, do you want her to offer to pay for the dessert/drink/movie that follows, or is she taking something away from you by doing that?

Let’s help each other out here. Chivalry is not dead. It’s just muddled. I, for one, would like to know how to leave a good impression.


Modern woman with an old soul


3 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Samuel
    Jul 03, 2011 @ 14:32:09

    I will tell you what to do with the double doors: open the second set for him! Chivalry works both ways, it just looks different. If your man has been slaving away fixing the family car, you bring him a lemonade or something. When he has a big event coming up, you iron his best shirt, etc.

    Love is about SERVING, and giving. I would not be offended if a girl brought me flowers, and I would not be offended if a girl opened the second set of doors. Girls doing sweet things for me is very endearing, so why not? When we open the door for you, are you not supposed to lean over and unlock the driver’s side? If your hands are very full, wait for him to get the second set. If not, the whole thing is just a good display of manners and courtesy on both sides. If a woman awaits the second set, that’s fine too, she is giving me a chance to finish my job and be generous. We are fine either way, but I prefer to see the girl reciprocate. Its not an insult or a smackdown of a chivalrous gesture.

    Accepting a gift honors the giver. It follows that generosity breeds generosity, too. So accept a gift of service, or chivalry, and gracefully be generous too. Everybody wins.

    As for picking up the check, let the man pay if he wishes. Again, accepting a gift honors the giver. Rejecting a gift is bad form. That being said, give HIM a gift occasionally, by picking up the tab, and if he protests, remind him that accepting a gift honors the giver, and his best response is simply “thank you”. (he should already know that, but may not)

    As far as the feminist stuff, I ignore it and do things the way I want to do them. If a girl isn’t quite cold enough for the jacket, she will decline politely, and I will retain it. Setting up structure for this sort of thing, setting up protocols, reduces awkward moments and maximizes getting things right.

    If a woman responds negatively to proper chivalry (i.e. shitty feminist attitude) I will either put her in check hard, and help her understand how things are going to be, or I will dismiss her entirely. Poor attitudes don’t work with me, though I’d rather illustrate and educate, than to just reject outright. Sometimes its just that they need understanding.


  2. embonbon
    Sep 11, 2011 @ 16:24:31

    I love your blog. It is very entertaining and interesting to read!
    Keep up the good work 🙂


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